HGH and fat loss

[gvblack]

At what level are you seeing significant fat loss with HGH use?

For me, I need to be at 3 iu and above, but I've heard others that have it drop at 1 iu.

Wht is your experience?

[Mighty-D]

From waht i know about it, I hear that no more than 4ius, but it also can depend on if your on the gas also.
That can increase more fat loss and better gains from what I have read and heard.

I havent heard of any one useing 1 iu per day..that seems to low? But I do not know. We have a few guys here that are on it now and have more Experience than I.:bolt:

[Gavin Kane]

2iu or less is more for general health and well being. It really takes 4iu or above to simulate the fat burning properties of gh use. That being said, the greatest factor in the efficacy of gh is age related.

[gvblack]

2iu or less is more for general health and well being. It really takes 4iu or above to simulate the fat burning properties of gh use. That being said, the greatest factor in the efficacy of gh is age related.

How does it it effect the over 40 crowd as compared to the under 40?

[Gavin Kane]

Over 40 crowd are much better responders than the young boys. You would see most if not all of the benefits of gh in a dose as low as 2iu per day.

[PimpOfNY]

wait so are you saying the older you are the more you would need to use because your own bodies production has slowed down????.........logically that is what i would think ....???

but no ....why is it the opposite

[newatsat1]

2iu or less is more for general health and well being. It really takes 4iu or above to simulate the fat burning properties of gh use. That being said, the greatest factor in the efficacy of gh is age related.

Gavin,
is that why i am not seeing the fatloss on the somas i should be
I am using only 3 ius a day
should i go to 4ius
i just added the hgh fragment like you recommended
i am also adding t4 at 100 mcg a day
If i want to go to 4 ius a day ,how do i figue that out on a slin pin
i diluted the somas like you tol me to 10 units= 3 ius

[jack thomas]

Gavin,
is that why i am not seeing the fatloss on the somas i should be
I am using only 3 ius a day
should i go to 4ius
i just added the hgh fragment like you recommended
i am also adding t4 at 100 mcg a day
If i want to go to 4 ius a day ,how do i figue that out on a slin pin
i diluted the somas like you tol me to 10 units= 3 ius

How much solution did you add to it?

j/t.

[newatsat1]

How much solution did you add to it?

j/t.
i added the 3 ius to the 20 mg of soma to make it 60 ius per bottle

[jack thomas]

i added the 3 ius to the 20 mg of soma to make it 60 ius per bottle

If you added 3cc to the gh,10 tics on the slin pin will give you 2iu of gh and 20 tics will give 4iu of gh.

j/t.

[newatsat1]

[QUOTE=jack thomas;167720]If you added 3cc to the gh,10 tics on the slin pin will give you 2iu of gh and 20 tics will give 4iu of gh.

im sorry i added 2 ml of nacl

[newatsat1]

Just waiting on some of your expertise or anyone elses advice.
Thank you

[TJ]

If you added 2ml of water to the bottle, then each bottle still has 60ius in it and each ml of solution would now have 30ius (vs. 20ius using 3ml) and each 10iu "tick" on the slin pin would be 3ius of GH.

[WolfPac_Ite]

Over 40 crowd are much better responders than the young boys. You would see most if not all of the benefits of gh in a dose as low as 2iu per day.

He might have meant the second part as a subject not related to the first sentence.

[comradebillyboy]

He might have meant the second part as a subject not related to the first sentence.

What it means is that for us old farts whose natty gh levels are low, the 2 iu per day puts us back where you young studs are, so we notice big time results. For a guy my age, having the normal hormone levels of someone in his 20s is a huge improvement. See, its real hard for us geezers to lose fat and gain any muscle compared to the youngsters. The gh will help me lose fat like I did when I was 30 and natural.

[norm240lbs]

Don't mislead the kid.... Us older guys respond to lower levels because we have put so many years in pushing iron around that the drugs respect us and they hope that if they work hard and get results for us we will respect them too. Did I mention that the weights actually fear us guys over 40? That's right, this is why you will often see us with less weight on the bar than the young guys. The rest of the weights have fled in fear. Now you know the truth.

(not too bad for off the cuff bullshit!)

[gvblack]

Don't mislead the kid.... Us older guys respond to lower levels because we have put so many years in pushing iron around that the drugs respect us and they hope that if they work hard and get results for us we will respect them too. Did I mention that the weights actually fear us guys over 40? That's right, this is why you will often see us with less weight on the bar than the young guys. The rest of the weights have fled in fear. Now you know the truth.

(not too bad for off the cuff bullshit!)

This phenomenon is real. The 45 lb plates use the Romulan Cloking Device when I'm in the gym. Years ago I could gather up 8 - 10 or more, but these days I can only find 6 if I hunt hard for chest day. Gone to the sled for thighs as the big plates run from the squat rack, as do my knees! This is real respect from the iron pile. The 85 lb dumbells lie prostrate before me in supplication, as the recall early times when I worked them like dogs.

[CIP]

At 40, 4 iu ED and fragments at night has worked wonders. I had to buy new jeans this weekend, this with a semi clean diet and NO cardio.

[comradebillyboy]

At 40, 4 iu ED and fragments at night has worked wonders. I had to buy new jeans this weekend, this with a semi clean diet and NO cardio.

Fill us in a bit on your experience with fragments. I keep reading about gh frag but I haven't seen any real good logs. if its a big help with fat loss, I'm real interested.

[WolfPac_Ite]

Fill us in a bit on your experience with fragments. I keep reading about gh frag but I haven't seen any real good logs. if its a big help with fat loss, I'm real interested.

I second that. :)

[Mark_Nimda]

good thread.

Gavine's example makes perfect logical sense because of the supressed (for lack of a better word) hormonal state of that age group. People in their 40's have much more to gain at the smaller doses.

Im 44. Never used HGH Before. Im looking at either getting the conventional Jintropin powder with mix or possibly getting the latest Jintropin AQ without having to mix. Will start off at 2 IU's for the 1st 2 weeks, then hope to go to max of 4 with no sides.

AQ is new to GenSci so perhaps the AQ product doesnt have much data out there to evaluate its potency. They claim its very potent - but for now, its a claim. If their claim is correct, perhaps 3 IU's of the AQ will yield close to what 4 IU's would yield of the conventional powder. One good thing, regardless of potency, would be its storage longevity for a liquid form

[CIP]

At 40, 4 iu ED and fragments at night has worked wonders. I had to buy new jeans this weekend, this with a semi clean diet and NO cardio.

They above protocal was run 6 weeks and like i said i was amazed at the fat loss. I cant give a continued assesment cuz Im gonna start some cardio and add a fat burner (T3,albuterol )

[PimpOfNY]

I am interested in the frags also and what it can do ...id like to hear more feedback .. ...from where and what dose ... what was the dosing schedule????

thanks for your feedback

[CIP]

200 mcgs of frag mon-fri before bed, 4iu GH PWO and 4IU non WO days 7 days a week.

[TJ]

They above protocol was run 6 weeks and like i said i was amazed at the fat loss. I cant give a continued assessment cuz I'm gonna start some cardio and add a fat burner (T3,albuterol )

Albuterol??? That was proven years ago to do zip, zilch, Nada for fat loss I hope you meant clenbuterol.

[CIP]

Albuterol??? That was proven years ago to do zip, zilch, Nada for fat loss I hope you meant clenbuterol.


Really? MaybeI will just stick with T-3 and ECA for my competition.

I will do my own report on albuterol, not that dont believe you...I ownly have 4- bottles to look at/use. lol