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Carlsberg
03-09-2007, 04:02 PM
Guys! I did my research read all the threads I could find Melano.org melanoplanet etc. I knew hyperpigmentation could happen but so far everybody who experienced them were either a: Happy with the tan and didnt mind a few moles B: Stopped and their skin slowly recovered.

The only scare threads I read was someone who someone who said that his/her friend had gotten lots of moles and that they were persistent.

I started on 0.5mg ED five days ago and I have already improved on my ghost reflective white skin:alien: But literally overnight I have gotten 4-5 small black moles on the side of my skin! Crap!

Damn! I dont know whether to continue and see if the benefits outweigh the side effect or what! I could live with a couple of extra moles (I have loads on my back) but I am freaking out that I will receive a facefull!

Any comments, experiences would be greatly apreciated!!!!

Anomeley
03-09-2007, 04:06 PM
Tanning bed?

Carlsberg
03-09-2007, 05:32 PM
Tanning bed?

I am not using any! I read that you shouldn't use them before 2/3 in your cycle. Also some people theorized that hyperpigmentation could be worse when combining the two. Not that have an f'nin clue anyway!!

Anomeley
03-09-2007, 05:49 PM
I would use what you are using for the sexual sides and nothing more. Whatever you read or heard about tanning beds before being 2/3 through a cycle is an urband legend and not even one I am familiar with. Hit the tanning bed and put a sock on Gizmo if your worried about him, gees. Tanning beds are an issue if you are on Accutane, are you?

Solid43
03-09-2007, 08:37 PM
I tried the stuff out of curiosity.. got an outrageous tan in no time.. also got tiny moles on the inside of my left quad.. very small, very much still there, and its been months since I stopped using the stuff..so I suspect the moles are not transitional.

lupus1
03-09-2007, 08:55 PM
I had the same problem. Got darker, but didn't like the moles. Felt like crap for the first week too, but my sex drive did increase. By the way, I love the PT-141 as an alternative or adjunct to viagra. If only they could keep the stuff stable so it would last longer after reconstitution it would be awesome.

alteredbeast
03-10-2007, 12:24 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this product developed as an aid to help prevent skin cancer? Seems like more moles is defeating the purpose...

doctorflex
03-10-2007, 01:23 AM
What is the dosage for increasing your tanning appearance as opposed to use for sexual applications. Interested in the product but only for skin pigmentation...how do you dose for that?

Carlsberg
03-10-2007, 04:13 AM
I would use what you are using for the sexual sides and nothing more. Whatever you read or heard about tanning beds before being 2/3 through a cycle is an urband legend and not even one I am familiar with. Hit the tanning bed and put a sock on Gizmo if your worried about him, gees. Tanning beds are an issue if you are on Accutane, are you?


I am using accutane! I am going to finish my 10mg and report back on my result. I have heard that small moles can be removed with a laser if they are on the face as the skin is very thin. Thanks Anomeley!

Carlsberg
03-10-2007, 04:14 AM
I tried the stuff out of curiosity.. got an outrageous tan in no time.. also got tiny moles on the inside of my left quad.. very small, very much still there, and its been months since I stopped using the stuff..so I suspect the moles are not transitional.


Damn!:panda:

Carlsberg
03-10-2007, 04:15 AM
I had the same problem. Got darker, but didn't like the moles. Felt like crap for the first week too, but my sex drive did increase. By the way, I love the PT-141 as an alternative or adjunct to viagra. If only they could keep the stuff stable so it would last longer after reconstitution it would be awesome.

Lupus, did the moles fade after you stopped?

Carlsberg
03-10-2007, 04:20 AM
What is the dosage for increasing your tanning appearance as opposed to use for sexual applications. Interested in the product but only for skin pigmentation...how do you dose for that?


There are lots of dosing protocols relating to weight. However the consensus is that they are too aggressive and uneccesary for good results. Most people report that starting on 0.5mg ed and up it too 1mg ed if the sides (nausea) is not too bad. I am doing 0.5mg ed and will stay on that until I have used 10mg. The sexual sides are inevitable for most people but nobody is complaining LOL. Aparently the higher the dose the stiffer the tool :nanahump: Take it at night if you want to sleep it off!

surazal
03-10-2007, 01:04 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this product developed as an aid to help prevent skin cancer? Seems like more moles is defeating the purpose...

actually i don't believe melanotan II creates more moles.

Those Moles are already there ... it just makes them darker because the melanin accumulates there.

i've used it and the dark spots faded after i stopped using it.

Mark_Nimda
03-10-2007, 01:51 PM
Guys! I did my research read all the threads I could find Melano.org melanoplanet etc. I knew hyperpigmentation could happen but so far everybody who experienced them were either a: Happy with the tan and didnt mind a few moles B: Stopped and their skin slowly recovered.

The only scare threads I read was someone who someone who said that his/her friend had gotten lots of moles and that they were persistent.

I started on 0.5mg ED five days ago and I have already improved on my ghost reflective white skin:alien: But literally overnight I have gotten 4-5 small black moles on the side of my skin! Crap!

Damn! I dont know whether to continue and see if the benefits outweigh the side effect or what! I could live with a couple of extra moles (I have loads on my back) but I am freaking out that I will receive a facefull!

Any comments, experiences would be greatly apreciated!!!!

I read alot of threads on the melanoplanet forum. I personally do not believe these peptides are satisfactorily effective as a whole. I read many many posts and the consensus is that it takes along long time to start seeing any results and at the price they sell this stuff for, that alone to me isnt worth it. I mean this stuff is not cheap.

In addition, it seems that parts of the body start to tan well before other parts, such as the face. And initialy, the face could be blotchy. I have read theads where lips turn blue. The disatisfaction from the threads I have read IMO Reveal that the product isnt quite there yet. I actualy posted my opinion, and some seemd to take it as a personal affront. Hey, I call 'em as I see 'em.

Whereas many people do eventually see results, there seem to be many bumps along the way and also, many people do not receive the expected results or they simply give up because of the expense. Just not worth it IMO from what I have seen so far. I'd rather play around with Trisoralen if I wanted a good, quick and long term tan. I think these tanning peptides need some improvement. I dont know how they would do that. Perhaps combining another compound with it may speed up the process and create an overall equally developed tan on the body

Carlsberg
03-10-2007, 05:30 PM
Thanks for everybodys help/opinions. I will report back after I have finished the course. Laters!!:plane:

Carlsberg
03-15-2007, 04:25 PM
Holy moly!!:panda: :panda: :panda: :panda: :panda:

I switched to .25mg eod. Hoping to reduce the chance of getting more moles! Did it work? Did it f'nin NOT! I must have gotten 50 new moles in total. The little fuckers just keep apearing:confused2:

I got 8mg introduced in my body (which is light) I did get a base tan and I am certainly not white anymore. The sides such as nausea and headaches seems to have almost gone with the reduced dosage. But I am out!!! I keep freaking out looking at myself in the mirror in the morning finding another cluster appearing. Most of them are pitch black! I really hope this will reduce with time but some of them look like stayers! If there is no improvement I am going to a laser clinic to get the ones in my faces zapped. They are all either very tiny or very small so shouldn't be a problem to get removed.

I guess a weekly sunbed session is my only hope, keeping the ghost away!

I will update this thread in a few weeks and hope that some of the little bastards are making an exit.!

doctorflex
03-15-2007, 05:13 PM
Holy moly!!:panda: :panda: :panda: :panda: :panda:

I switched to .25mg eod. Hoping to reduce the chance of getting more moles! Did it work? Did it f'nin NOT! I must have gotten 50 new moles in total. The little fuckers just keep apearing:confused2:

I got 8mg introduced in my body (which is light) I did get a base tan and I am certainly not white anymore. The sides such as nausea and headaches seems to have almost gone with the reduced dosage. But I am out!!! I keep freaking out looking at myself in the mirror in the morning finding another cluster appearing. Most of them are pitch black! I really hope this will reduce with time but some of them look like stayers! If there is no improvement I am going to a laser clinic to get the ones in my faces zapped. They are all either very tiny or very small so shouldn't be a problem to get removed.

I guess a weekly sunbed session is my only hope, keeping the ghost away!

I will update this thread in a few weeks and hope that some of the little bastards are making an exit.!


Has anyone used this product without getting moles as a side effect??? PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP as I have an order in and have about 24 to 48 hours to make a "substitution" if necessary

doctorflex
03-15-2007, 10:56 PM
Holy moly!!:panda: :panda: :panda: :panda: :panda:

I switched to .25mg eod. Hoping to reduce the chance of getting more moles! Did it work? Did it f'nin NOT! I must have gotten 50 new moles in total. The little fuckers just keep apearing:confused2:

I got 8mg introduced in my body (which is light) I did get a base tan and I am certainly not white anymore. The sides such as nausea and headaches seems to have almost gone with the reduced dosage. But I am out!!! I keep freaking out looking at myself in the mirror in the morning finding another cluster appearing. Most of them are pitch black! I really hope this will reduce with time but some of them look like stayers! If there is no improvement I am going to a laser clinic to get the ones in my faces zapped. They are all either very tiny or very small so shouldn't be a problem to get removed.

I guess a weekly sunbed session is my only hope, keeping the ghost away!

I will update this thread in a few weeks and hope that some of the little bastards are making an exit.!

Carlsberg - I was wondering - if you didn't mind - if you could post a pic of the moles that were "popping" up...curious as to what they look like. If anyone else has experienced the same issue, post a pic as well..many thanks...Doc

surazal
03-16-2007, 12:19 PM
i didn't get moles ...... but i did get "freckles" that darkened.



btw - they lightened back up as soon as i stopped taking it. For me the sides were too bad to stay on MII permanently.

Carlsberg
03-17-2007, 01:11 PM
Carlsberg - I was wondering - if you didn't mind - if you could post a pic of the moles that were "popping" up...curious as to what they look like. If anyone else has experienced the same issue, post a pic as well..many thanks...Doc


They started of as small circular black dots almost ink like. It has been 4 days since my last dose my tan is still there. Some of the moles have increased slightly in size but have changed to a brown colour. I am hoping that means they have started to fade! I will update any further changes.

Many people don't get any moles and there are lots of succes stories! I have alot of moles on my back so maybe I am more prone.

Carlsberg
03-17-2007, 01:12 PM
i didn't get moles ...... but i did get "freckles" that darkened.



btw - they lightened back up as soon as i stopped taking it. For me the sides were too bad to stay on MII permanently.

Surazal when you say sides did you mean the freckles? How long after you discontinued before they started to fade?

Whitey
03-22-2007, 11:13 AM
Never seen any "mole" activity. Yes, it darkens existing freckles, and maybe even creates new ones, though I haven't noticed it. All of mine were there to begin with, got darker, and they lighten up as the tan fades. I've run 4 cycles, and I can safely say I have not accumulated more freckles or any moles to my knowledge, in fact, I believe I have permanently improved my ability to tan.

The thing you have to realize is if you're a freckler, you'll get freckles. The skin will respond similarly to MT as it does to the sun, except better, because there are no UV rays causing mutation and skin anomalies. If you get moles and freckles instead of tanning, MTII will not cure you, though it will be better than the sun. The only way to avoid freckles and such completely if you are prone is to avoid sun altogether, and use self-bronzer.

doctorflex
03-22-2007, 11:49 AM
Never seen any "mole" activity. Yes, it darkens existing freckles, and maybe even creates new ones, though I haven't noticed it. All of mine were there to begin with, got darker, and they lighten up as the tan fades. I've run 4 cycles, and I can safely say I have not accumulated more freckles or any moles to my knowledge, in fact, I believe I have permanently improved my ability to tan.

The thing you have to realize is if you're a freckler, you'll get freckles. The skin will respond similarly to MT as it does to the sun, except better, because there are no UV rays causing mutation and skin anomalies. If you get moles and freckles instead of tanning, MTII will not cure you, though it will be better than the sun. The only way to avoid freckles and such completely if you are prone is to avoid sun altogether, and use self-bronzer.


Whitey - was hoping you could help me out since you have ran four cycles of Melanotan II already. Looking to use it for tanning purposes and was wondering what would be the best way to reconstitute the powder?

- - do I need to use Acetic Acid?
- - can I use Bacteriostatic Water by itself or a mixture of Bacteriostatic Water and Acetic Acid?
- - what is the shelf life once reconstituted?
- - does it need to be refrigerated?
- - are shots sub q or IM (and where)
- - amount that should be used (I weigh about 255 lbs)?
- - should it be timed with a tanning session/ (ie. 2hours before,
after, etc)

Please let me know when you get a chance...many thanks...Doc

956Vette
03-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Carlsberg, this is the perfect time to introduce UV exposure. This can be awkward (as you are experiencing), so start tanning and see how your skin developes. I feel you will be happy after you see some sun ;) Keep us posted!

Whitey
03-22-2007, 11:57 PM
Whitey - was hoping you could help me out since you have ran four cycles of Melanotan II already. Looking to use it for tanning purposes and was wondering what would be the best way to reconstitute the powder?

- - do I need to use Acetic Acid?
- - can I use Bacteriostatic Water by itself or a mixture of Bacteriostatic Water and Acetic Acid?
- - what is the shelf life once reconstituted?
- - does it need to be refrigerated?
- - are shots sub q or IM (and where)
- - amount that should be used (I weigh about 255 lbs)?
- - should it be timed with a tanning session/ (ie. 2hours before,
after, etc)

Please let me know when you get a chance...many thanks...Doc


Think I got most of your answers in the other thread: http://www.anabolex.com/forums/showpost.php?p=218780&postcount=3

And of course Vette gave you a killer compilation of info over there, too.

I've found that dosing is an individual thing - the general rule is 1mg/kg bodyweight - give or take. But I've found I can tan well, now on half that. More precisely, I feel like it's the overall # of mg on your cycle that matters, not how much you take each dose. If that makes sense. I don't know of anyone who's not gotten outstanding results from 2 vials, at least not from TanResearch's stuff. I got dark this last cycle on a single vial. :hail:

That said, for me, the key is tanning every time I use the stuff. It's not necessary, but it is more efficient. I don't know what's optimal in the literature, but I've tried to tan within a 30-90 minute range from taking the MTII. I often inject it IM as well, which I find quite effective, and perhaps I'm getting more of a spike in my system during the tanning, instead of a sustained release.

I think it's also possible that in time, you develop a sustainable (that is to say, at least somewhat permanent in nature) increase in melanocyctes - I believe I have, at any rate. I tan more easily and deeply, and burn less on AND off cycle, and even when the tan fades out, I'm an acceptable color.

I couldn't be happier with MTII - it really is a remarkable product. Only downside is the occasional drink getting knocked off the table when you stand up and turn around with a MelanoBone. :Banane03: Oh, and some flushing and slight nausea in the beginning, which disappears in time, and can be avoided by starting with a low dose, and ramping up.

surazal
03-23-2007, 02:57 PM
Surazal when you say sides did you mean the freckles? How long after you discontinued before they started to fade?

actually i wasn't including freckles in my bad side effects category.

it made me feel like crap ... like a flu with muscle spasms.

it worked great though, i'm type 1 skin type ... Blonde hair, blue eyes etc. I got dark on very low dosage and stayed kept tan longer than i ever could off of just normal sun.


but yes .... my freckles are lightening back up as the tan fades. i just stopped taking it 2/3 weeks ago.

Carlsberg
03-23-2007, 03:06 PM
Carlsberg, this is the perfect time to introduce UV exposure. This can be awkward (as you are experiencing), so start tanning and see how your skin developes. I feel you will be happy after you see some sun ;) Keep us posted!


You mean the new moles will blend in more or that the melanin will be distributed a bit more?

Carlsberg
03-24-2007, 09:25 AM
Update!

The two moles I got on my nose, 1 small, 1 very small are both fading and shrinking. My freckles are also fading!

The other moles I got in my face look same ish. I hope they follow soon.

Whitey
03-27-2007, 01:05 AM
Not to worry, mate. It's all good. Now, the nausea hits some worse than others. My little lady got punked on her first dose. Start LOW, taper up. Your tolerance will build quickly. Stay at 1mg a day if you have to. Your next cycle, you'll be at 2mg/ED - no problem.

I've done 3.5mg in one dose, just in case anyone was curious about upper limits. Didn't feel so hot, TBH.

Flushing, nausea, slight abdominal cramping are the culprits. But like I said, barely noticeable at lower doses - start with .5mg if you want to, and just ramp it up.