Is insulin anabolic without carbs?

[Fletch80]

Since HGH causes my blood sugar to rise and insulin brings it back down, I don't seem to need to consume a bunch of carbs to avoid going hypoglycemic. If I just take my slin after my HGH (about 20 min), and just eat regularly, will it still be effective. Basically...is slin anabolic completely on its own, or do you have to carb load and eat a ton? I want to stay lean and get ripped. Please don't tell me to read a sticky cause I've read'em. I understand that you need the sugar to avoid going hypo, but I want to know if that is the only reason.

[T-Bone]

I know you said dont say read the sticky, but you are really setting yourself up for a hard lesson. Insulin can be very dangerous and by the very nature of this post you dont know what you are doing.

I really suggest you read a little more, educate yourself a little more and then try again. Im not trying to be harsh, but done incorrectly insulin can kill you.

[T-Bone]

To answer your question, no it wont be anabolic without the nutrients to go with it.

[speedbacker]

Insulin is deathly without carbs (Most of the time).

[Fletch80]

I know you said dont say read the sticky, but you are really setting yourself up for a hard lesson. Insulin can be very dangerous and by the very nature of this post you dont know what you are doing.

I really suggest you read a little more, educate yourself a little more and then try again. Im not trying to be harsh, but done incorrectly insulin can kill you.

Hey T-Bone,

Thanks for the reply. I have used insulin a few times the "correct" way. (10 grams sugar/unit, lean protein) I have a blood glucose meter so I can see exactly where my blood sugar is at. I'm not planning on eating no carbs at all, just a lot less. From what I have read 10 grams per unit is overkill anyways, and you really need about 5-7. When you say nutrients, I assume you are talking protein AND carbs right? I still plan on eating a ton of protein, just less and more complex carbs so that my blood glucose doesn't go above 100. I would have to disagree with you that I don't know what I'm doing just because I want to know if you need excess sugar or just enough to still see the anabolic effects.

[Rocky99]

fletch i only take in around 60 grams of simple carbs when i use my insulin & i use 10ius after gym twice a wk.

i found that 10gms/iu of simple carbs was bloating me big time & 100 grams of simple sugars at once was almost making me sick.
Now ive cut back to 60gms & ive had no probs what so ever.
this works for me but may not work for everyone.

[Fletch80]

Thanks for that bro. Do you use humalog or humulin-r, and do you consume complex carbs later on after the 60gms simple sugars or is it just 60 total?


fletch i only take in around 60 grams of simple carbs when i use my insulin & i use 10ius after gym twice a wk.

i found that 10gms/iu of simple carbs was bloating me big time & 100 grams of simple sugars at once was almost making me sick.
Now ive cut back to 60gms & ive had no probs what so ever.
this works for me but may not work for everyone.

[Rocky99]

i use 10ius of humalog then have 60gms of vitargo in my protein drink(just started using this instead of the glucose/maltodextrin combo that i usually use to try & cut down on bloat).
i then have my normal evening meal about 3/4 of an hr later consisting of some meat or chicken & either potato,rice or pasta.