Took my first shot of IGF today

[Baliboner]

I train after work so I will be taking a 20mcg shot at about 6:30pm and one before bet at about 9:30 or 10:pm. If it doesn't seem to make me sleepy (as I have heard GH does) then I will start taking it in the morning and after working out instead.

Questions:

Is there any way to tell immediatly if the stuff is real? Do you get a certain "feeling" or anything?

What's the protocol on eating before/after taking a shot?

Yes, yes, I know all of these questions should have been asked before but I was going to wait until next week (last shot of test cyp was last week) and then decided that I should start a week earlier.

Thanks!

By the way, before the forums went down someone told me I couldn't gain 20 lbs on my third cycle if I only used 400mg of test and 300mg of Decca. Well I started at 185 and today I am 206 lbs. So... :wazzup:

[ubergod]

So 2 cycles and you only got up too 186? Yet you gained 20 pounds on your 3rd cycle... rigggght

[Baliboner]

I got up to 175 from 150 naturally before starting a cycle. Unlike some people, I don't do one cycle after another after another. I did my first cycle over two years ago. Also, after my first cycle, which took me up to 190 from about 175, I graduated college, moved overseas back to the US, and had to concentrate on finding a job, starting a career, etc... So I lost a lot of it and went back down to about where I was before my first cycle. You don't keep everyting you gain off of every cycle, especially when you're doing less than two cycles a year and have to take time off for personal shit in between. My third cycle took me up to 190-something again, lost a little less than half in PCT, and over time lost a little bit more as I began starting my own business while working a full time job. You know what... I don't need to give you my life fucking story, because I don't know you; you don't know me; and I could give a shit less if you believe it or not. Go on killing yourself with a gram a week. I don't fucking care. It's one less asshole left in the world.

Here's the deal dick head - I gained OVER 20 lbs on my third cycle using by most standards VERY LITTLE. I did it to prove to myself that I don't need to keep going up and up and up in order to continue gaining on cycles.

I don't give a shit if you believe it or not. So, in short - :finger:

[jack thomas]

So 2 cycles and you only got up too 186? Yet you gained 20 pounds on your 3rd cycle... rigggght
LOL!......funny shit!

j/t.

[strongman]

1- theres no reason to jump someones thread and question them, if you don't want to answer thier quesion then just do not comment

2- you can easily gain 20lbs from 400/300mg of test/deca if you eat enough and run it long enough

3- a gram a week isn't going to kill anyone

Bali, keep us posted about the IGF, I know several including myself that are interested in trying it...

[Baliboner]

So far no good on the IGF. I think I screwed up by leaving it in a hot room. Nothing has changed in my diet or training since I started PCT. I'm down to 201 from my peak of 206. I don't feel super pumps in the gym, my bodyfat hasn't changed, and I really can't tell if the IGF is doing anything or not.

I'll let you know where I'm at by the end of PCT, after I get a blood test and confirm that everything is back to normal.

JT - If I had done those three cycles in the same year, I would be much, much bigger than I am. I think I did my first cycle in early 2003 and it's mid 2006 so that's an average of once per year at low doses. But my test levels were at the mid-high level of normal, my BP was fine, liver was fine, lipids were fine... And that's what's important to me. I'm not a pro bodybuilder. I'm probably not every going to step on stage, even as an amature. I was a twig all the way until the age of 25. And by twig, I mean below 150 lbs and over 5 foot 11 inches tall.

So for me to be over 200 lbs and able to take steroids at low enough doses not to have any major side effects and end up with better-than-average blood tests three months after a cycle is fine with me.

Do all the LOLing you want. I don't give a shit.