Took 200mcg of IGF?

[Baliboner]

Due to a mathematical error, I did my first and second shot of IGF at about 200mcg each.... I think. I need to wait until I get home and have a look at the slin pins I'm using, but they are 1CC so I think they're the kind that measure in units of ten like: 10,20,30... and instead of taking 4iu I was taking 40iu. This was diluted from 1mg of IGF using 2 mil of water. I think the reason I screwed up is because I've been taking HCG in the same model syringes for the last 8 weeks at the 40IU mark.

But I don't feel strange really, except a little confused at how I could fuck up so badly, a little pissed off about cutting my IGF cycle short by 10 days, and a little scared about what effect this could have on my body.

I don't feel light headed, dizzy or nauseous. Taking ten times the amount I'm supposed to take SHOULD make me feel something right?

Now I'm beginning to wonder if my IGF is fake or ruined, which makes me even more angry because this was my PCT plan and now I'm going to lose half of my gains and put on more fat.

Confused, pissed and feeling like I should just say fuck steroids altogether.

Any advice?

[biggreene]

I doubt 200mcg of IGF would make you go hypo, if that's what you are implying. It's not like taking 40ius of slin with no carbs or something like that. I have shot up to 100mcg at a time and noticed no signs of hypoglycemia.

[Baliboner]

Should I back off the IGF for a week then to let my receptor sites cool off? I mean, after two shots of 200mcg, isn't that going to make them pretty much laugh at 20mcg per injection?

All I can say is that if this stuff IS real (and I have my doubts now) IGF is pretty easy going on the insulin-like side effects.

Got this from El R... by the way. It was left in my room during a week of close to 100 degree weather, but I have read that it would be fine because it hadn't been reconstituded yet.

[Grunt76]

What did you reconstitute it with?

Did you get it at the supplier that roars?

At 200mcg you should feel something allright. BIG TIME.

I'd stay off for at least a week to let the receptors cool. IF that's IGF-1 you're using.

[Baliboner]

Reconstituted with the sodium chloride provided by supplier in plastic vials.

Well there's a lion logo so I pretty sure it roars.

I feel pressure in my head and my thoughts are a little cloudy, but other than that I don't feel sh*t. No crazy pumps in my forarms from typing (and I do A LOT of typing), no dizzyness, no nausea, no crazy hunger... Just a feeling of preassure in my head and maybe some of my joints.

[Grunt76]

Reconstituted with the sodium chloride provided by supplier in plastic vials.

Well there's a lion logo so I pretty sure it roars.

I feel pressure in my head and my thoughts are a little cloudy, but other than that I don't feel sh*t. No crazy pumps in my forarms from typing (and I do A LOT of typing), no dizzyness, no nausea, no crazy hunger... Just a feeling of preassure in my head and maybe some of my joints.
Weird shit.

One would say that I am stating this because I am associated with another supplier, but I would never get close to that roaring one. I mean... I would *NEVER* use any of their "products". Some of them have been LAB TESTED to be solvents and flavor. No active. You cannot possibly get more red-handed-lights-on-camera-rolling caught than that.

Moreover, it should be reconstituted with acetic acid. Save $55 and go with a reliable source next time.

[Baliboner]

See I was told just the opposite, that El R**** was the ONLY place to trust for IGF.

I did feel strange the first half of the day, but like I said it was mostly just a pressure in my head.

I'm going to wait about a week, buy some smaller slin syringes, and keep going I guess. If I continue to gain or maintain throughout PCT I'll be happy. But I'm not going to get my hopes up.

The good news is I'm still alive! Let's just hope I didn't get HCG instead. THAT would be interesting here in about 24 hours. :crap:

[RacerXHGH]

I havn't told anyone thi until now, but, las year, While I was dosing out my IGF, I was interupted by a phone call and instead of doing 40mcg, I did 400mcg. I was worried for the first five minutes, then figured if it does any damage, it'll probably be long term. Actually felt really good that day.

[AWESOME1]

See I was told just the opposite, that El R**** was the ONLY place to trust for IGF.

I did feel strange the first half of the day, but like I said it was mostly just a pressure in my head.

I'm going to wait about a week, buy some smaller slin syringes, and keep going I guess. If I continue to gain or maintain throughout PCT I'll be happy. But I'm not going to get my hopes up.

The good news is I'm still alive! Let's just hope I didn't get HCG instead. THAT would be interesting here in about 24 hours. :crap:


You are way confused, the IGF-1 they are refering to which roars is the brand Lions IGF-1. The brand you have is by PEL, which is the correct one.
If it was kept in 100 degrees weather for a week without refrigeration then it is very possible it could have degenerated-what else would you expect?
Its a very delicate peptide. You know better, when it comes to storage and handling of IGF-1. Anyway taking 200mcgs is not going to make you drop like insulin would, no big deal. The symptoms you would feel though are hunger and slight hypo after 1 hr with that dose. Symptoms associated with high doses also include headache, nausea, lethargy/tired.
Stay on your IGF-1 cycle and complete it, dont drop it after 2 days.

[Gavin Kane]

I took 200mcg of El R at once and my blood pressure spiked through the roof. I know it is legit and it did a number on me. If you didn't feel anything at all at that dose, it is quite possible the peptide was damaged from the heat.

El R does not have a lion.

[Baliboner]

The brand I have from El R DOES have a picture of a lion on it, the sort you would see on a coat of arms like this except all black:
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/42972/2/Lion_Emblem__coat_of_arms_.jpg

But you are right, I was WAY confused. My problem was the size of my slin syringes. I'm so used to taking HCG with them that I went up to 40 iu thinking it was 4. I'm getting smaller barrels tomorrow.

So Awsome, you don't think I should take a break and get started again next week?

Gavin, extremely high BP WOULD explain that "pressure" I felt in my head and joints. That's a classic high BP symptom, only I didn't feel it behind my eyes like I usually do when I get a BP spike.

Question - Why does my bottle say El R Pharmacy AND have that lion logo?

[Super Man]

dude i feel the pumps at 50 mcgs. 200 i think would make me insane. (el r.......)

[Grunt76]

The mystery thickens.

[Aussie Muscle]

Hey guys, new to this site, but quite experienced in bodybuilding.

Bali..... The EL R that my mate was using does have a small pic of the lion on it. He loves the stuff but I haven't tried it yet, want to get a few more opinions on it...will be posting new thread soon.

[AWESOME1]

When they refer to the brand that roars here, they are refering to the IGF-1 by Lion. You are getting confused, they are not refering to PEL.
Do a search here on Lions IGF-1. That is a seperate brand.

[AWESOME1]

yes 200mcgs causes a strong headache....

baliboner: no I dont think you should take a break, do a complete cycle without interuption...

[SMASHING MACHINE]

from my eperience now Pharmacia El does NOT have a lion on it. i actually have a buddy, who was a monkey and injected 700mcg of igf! he is alive and well haha but he did experience some serious headaches and im sure blood pressure. he did feel dizzy and he actually explained his mind as being a little clouded. i mad him take in a good amount of sugar... but nothing crazy... and he kept saying he was getting more and more sleepy.. no i did not let him sleep as i am a slinbomber as well. but i wasnt to worried. he ended up being jsut fine but pissed at the money he wasted.

[Baliboner]

The instruction paper that came with the order says P.. El R... and says Pel Inc. as well. I might have taken too much IGF, but it didn't make me hallucinate. The lion is there. Now, either someone is posing as El R or he puts a small black medieval lion on some of his labels.

Anyone close enough to him want to ask him the question? Which is it?

I would very much appreciate the help just to clear this up, but either way I’m going to keep taking it at 40mcg ed until its gone.

Thank everyone for your input in this confusing matter. My wife gave me a big “I told you so” when I let her know what had happened. But then I told her that if I had taken ten times the suggested dose of any other medication, I’d probably be in the hospital, so this stuff isn’t nearly as bad as people make it out to be. At least not in the short-term.

[Super Man]

ive got igf long r3. has a red (lion) in upper left corner of label. white label yellow stamp kinda looks like the stanp from a bicycle deck of cards. he might be changing the colors cause on the gh i have one kit is different color from others.

[Grunt76]

The mystery thickens further. :p

[2Sick]

First off I want to say that PEL's IGF is the best on the market hands down. And there are documented tests to prove it's legitamacy.

First tiem I used it I took 100mcg at once and got a huge headace, and my bood pressure went way up, otherwise nothing else...You will be fine.

[AWESOME1]

For the last time Lions IGF-1 is a completely different product & brand called Lions. Do a search here on Lions IGF-1 and you will get all the info.
PEL is a sperate product of LongR3 RG IGF-1.
The brand that "roars" is the term refering to Lions IGF-1.

[Super Man]

The mystery thickens further. :p

care to elaborate?

[Grunt76]

care to elaborate?
Sry I just hadn't seen confirmation that he had good IGF.

[Baliboner]

For the last time Lions IGF-1 is a completely different product & brand called Lions. Do a search here on Lions IGF-1 and you will get all the info.
PEL is a sperate product of LongR3 RG IGF-1.
The brand that "roars" is the term refering to Lions IGF-1.

I think everyone knows this by now. All I'm saying is that my PEL IGF has a picture of a lion on it. No big deal if that's what it is supposed to look like. However, from a marketing perspective, it's kind of a silly move to put a logo of a lion on your product when a scammer selling the same produc uses that as a name.

Anway...

Some poeple say they go "huge" headaches at 100mcg. Well I took 200mcg !and didn't get a headache. Kind of worrying... Could very well be that my IGF is not as potent because I left it in a hot room for so long. Could bery well be that I tolerate high doses strangly well. Who knows.

I would still like confirmation from El R... that he puts a lion logo on some labels. I know what email I have for him (if I have the right one) so I would appreciate it if someone who has purchased from him a few times could verify that I have the correct email and thus - I received the correct product from the correct person.

[AWESOME1]

I think everyone knows this by now. All I'm saying is that my PEL IGF has a picture of a lion on it. No big deal if that's what it is supposed to look like. However, from a marketing perspective, it's kind of a silly move to put a logo of a lion on your product when a scammer selling the same produc uses that as a name.

Anway...

Some poeple say they go "huge" headaches at 100mcg. Well I took 200mcg !and didn't get a headache. Kind of worrying... Could very well be that my IGF is not as potent because I left it in a hot room for so long. Could bery well be that I tolerate high doses strangly well. Who knows.

I would still like confirmation from El R... that he puts a lion logo on some labels. I know what email I have for him (if I have the right one) so I would appreciate it if someone who has purchased from him a few times could verify that I have the correct email and thus - I received the correct product from the correct person.

Lions IGF-1(the scammer) copied PEL image. PEL have been around first.
PEL actually supply a lot of distributors and research companies with
LR3 IGF-1, in which the companies & distributors then relabel it.

[AWESOME1]

The ignorance and misinformation here is unbelievable...
www.lionnutrition.com
Lion(aka the source that "roars") sells "liquid" products.
Sells IGF-1 Ec(True mechano growth factor)???

PEL is a licensed international pharmaceutical company with manufacturing plants. They supply LR3 receptor grade. Do not compare to Lionnutrition.

[AWESOME1]

Also lionnutrition.com lyophilized version of IGF-1 is media grade not receptor grade(like PEL). Also note, if you refer to the solvents used by lionnutrition with their IGF-1 it is .9% sodium chloride- which they buy from PEL.

Hope this clears up the confusion, and you are well informed now....
Ignorance is no excuse, get the facts straight about your products....

[Explosivez]

I used 125 mcg of IGF1-lr3 from PEL one time post workout and my heart RACED for hours and I had a funny feeling through my chest and head... I also had massive pumps, even when taking well under 100mcg. It's my favorite stuff along with Somatorm hGH.

[Baliboner]

I had to have ruined mine.

NEVER let it sit in a hot room, even if it hasn't been reconstituted yet. Don't make the same mistake I made.

:(

[Super Man]

I used 125 mcg of IGF1-lr3 from PEL one time post workout and my heart RACED for hours and I had a funny feeling through my chest and head... I also had massive pumps, even when taking well under 100mcg. It's my favorite stuff along with Somatorm hGH.

dude i have trouble sleeping on 50-60, 125 and id be up for days

[AWESOME1]

I had to have ruined mine.

NEVER let it sit in a hot room, even if it hasn't been reconstituted yet. Don't make the same mistake I made.

:(

Of course not.
IGF-1 is a very sensitive peptide.