Hygentropin

[daghbeast]

:clap2: Nice to be back again well here is my question for today did some of you know HYGETROPIN gh ? it commes in 8ui amps 200ui box Any feed back ? :high5:

[daghbeast]

BUMP nobody ? :Banane37:

[jzigger]

this is the browns now patented. yes its good.

[boxer156]

just curious....how much $$ an iu is this?

[BIGAINS]

can't talk about prices on the open board

[boxer156]

I've been on this board for about 6-7 years, and I've seen NUMEROUS posts on GH prices since it is not regulated. If it is concerning for the person, they can PM me the price.

[daghbeast]

some pict for more feedback

[jack thomas]

Looking at your stash makes me drool lol!.....i have my stash of soma in the fridge too.

j/t.

[jzigger]

some pict for more feedback

yes thats them they are good to go........

[daghbeast]

Looking at your stash makes me drool lol!.....i have my stash of soma in the fridge too.

j/t.

lol :angel: saddly thisis just pictures toshow nothing nowhere for me :(

[Br0]

This not Hygentropin but Hygetropin.... I think the are not the same... look

http://www.anabolex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5180

[bmass]

jintropin are 1.33mg/ml and Hygetropin are 1.65mg/ml i think thats why most people say that hyge is givinng better effect then jino

[volusia40]

So which of these three is the best?

Are they all produced by Hygene Pharm?

Are they all 191 and Pharm grade?

I'm thinking of placing an order.

[mamta]

jintropin are 1.33mg/ml and Hygetropin are 1.65mg/ml i think thats why most people say that hyge is givinng better effect then jino

yes these are more per iu of hgh.
that is why they are stronger .

these are from a proper pharma co. in china unlike the other stuff coming out plus this co.s manager is also the co founder of Gensci. so he knows his stuff.
u wont be dissapointed with it.

[Dale D]

The purity levels for Hygetropin must be higher, or more IU's, which is good in either case.

I've only heard good things about the brown tops, AKA Hygetropin, plus it is cheaper than Jintropin.

Dale

[Gavin Kane]

It is 192aa so while it will work for a short period of time, your body will develop anti-bodies to it and then your own natural gh production will drop rapidly as well. Anti-bodies are not just a temporary side effect, they can have long term damage. The FDA is working on removing all 192aa GH from sale in the country right now.

Why are you guys messing with your health when 191aa gh is so cheap and readily available?

[mamta]

It is 192aa so while it will work for a short period of time, your body will develop anti-bodies to it and then your own natural gh production will drop rapidly as well. Anti-bodies are not just a temporary side effect, they can have long term damage. The FDA is working on removing all 192aa GH from sale in the country right now.

Why are you guys messing with your health when 191aa gh is so cheap and readily available?

bro i think u are mistaking this for some other hgh.
hygetropin is 191aa and not 192.
The main guy behind hygetropin is the co founder of Genscis HGH and only improved the technology Of genscis HGh and made this brand HGH.
this is also a registered Pharma Co. in china and has there HGH approved by the Govt of China.

[bullseye]

Are you the original Mamta associated with Kexing? Haven't seen you on the boards in quite some time...

[Gavin Kane]

bro i think u are mistaking this for some other hgh.
hygetropin is 191aa and not 192.
The main guy behind hygetropin is the co founder of Genscis HGH and only improved the technology Of genscis HGh and made this brand HGH.
this is also a registered Pharma Co. in china and has there HGH approved by the Govt of China.

I think it is you who are mistaken my friend. There are lab tests available that show your gh as 192. All Chinese gh is still manufactured using inclusion body technology. Only Gensci has the proprietary rights by the Chinese Govt to use Secretion Technology which means they are the only ones making 191aa in China. They have patent rights and sue every company that claims otherwise. For example..Fitropin and AnkeBio have both been sued for making false claims as 191aa, recent tests prove they are 192. Don't come here selling your crap Gh, I protect my members and educate them otherwise.

[mamta]

Are you the original Mamta associated with Kexing? Haven't seen you on the boards in quite some time...

yup that is me

[mamta]

I think it is you who are mistaken my friend. There are lab tests available that show your gh as 192. All Chinese gh is still manufactured using inclusion body technology. Only Gensci has the proprietary rights by the Chinese Govt to use Secretion Technology which means they are the only ones making 191aa in China. They have patent rights and sue every company that claims otherwise. For example..Fitropin and AnkeBio have both been sued for making false claims as 191aa, recent tests prove they are 192. Don't come here selling your crap Gh, I protect my members and educate them otherwise.

ol.
i would like to see the tests bro.
and btw fitropin does not say its 191aa and to prove that i was one of the first ones to state that it was 192aa here is the proof of it.

no gensci does nto have the rights to make 191.. 191 can anyone can make now if they have the technology to make it.. someone had an international patient on 191 but about a couple of yrs ago that patient has expired and no one owns the patient. infact gensci was being sued by one of the USA cos for trying to steal its technology for which the owner of Gensci was working for when he was in USA.
and here are the personal tests we carried on before we decided to do this verture. these test show that this hgh is clearly 191aa.
also id like to see where fitropin has been sued. they never claim to have 191aa they have stated that its 192aa. so where is the conflict with them.. ankie i have heard that their hgh is 192aa but i have no proof of it and cannot and will not say much about it unless i have solid proof that it is 192aa.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45302&highlight=fitropin

here read this thread. no one denied that fitropin was 192aa

also ill attach some lab tests for u to see that hyge is 191aa.

http://www.outlawmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17525&highlight=mamta ( here is the lab report for this hgh stating its 191aa)

[pscarb]

I think it is you who are mistaken my friend. There are lab tests available that show your gh as 192. All Chinese gh is still manufactured using inclusion body technology. Only Gensci has the proprietary rights by the Chinese Govt to use Secretion Technology which means they are the only ones making 191aa in China. They have patent rights and sue every company that claims otherwise. For example..Fitropin and AnkeBio have both been sued for making false claims as 191aa, recent tests prove they are 192. Don't come here selling your crap Gh, I protect my members and educate them otherwise.


Gavin i would like to see the lab report that says that Hygetropin is 192aa...

[Br0]

I dont think that it is 192 amino..

hygetropin, Hygentropin, Getropin all 192 amino's (thats what they claim)

[Gavin Kane]

Fitropin originally came on the scene and claimed they were 191aa many years ago, they have since had to retract that statement because of the pending lawsuit which was later dropped.

I will retrieve and post the 192aa lab results for your gh.

As for Gensci, they are the only Chinese company with the rights to manufacture 191aa and they still hold a current patent. I never stated other companies couldn't make 191aa, but they can't in China.

You guys can exit my board anytime. You keep pushing your stuff here in threads without paying for advertising I will ban anyone associated with you.

[mamta]

"Fitropin originally came on the scene and claimed they were 191aa many years ago, they have since had to retract that statement because of the pending lawsuit which was later dropped."

I have been associated with kex for a while and never heard of such a law suit.


"I will retrieve and post the 192aa lab results for your gh.

As for Gensci, they are the only Chinese company with the rights to manufacture 191aa and they still hold a current patent. I never stated other companies couldn't make 191aa, but they can't in China."

As far the info i have this is not true. Plus Co.s are making 191 in china. and some of the generics are even doing so. These generics do not need license from the Govt of China to do so hence there is no stopping them to make 191 ( even if for arguments sake we say that gensci has the patient)

"You guys can exit my board anytime. You keep pushing your stuff here in threads without paying for advertising I will ban anyone associated with you."

My intentions were never to do so if it came out like that than i apologise.
I had adverstised on this board a long time back and even helped Fitropin come here and advertise. ( which i think did for a long time). and at present iam talking to the sales staff for advertising as we speak.

[L.W.]

Fitropin caused lots of problems a few years back.
I heard of a law suit as well, but never really looked into it further.
Certainly it was a very poor GH brand regardless.

[Dale D]

What kind of test would be required to see if it is 191 or 192? I have some blue tops and Hygetropin in hand for testing...just like the Somatorm DoctorFlex and I sent for testing.

Dale

[speedster]

I have generic blue-tops as well. If anyone can test them, I'll be more than happy to send a bottle (10iu) for testing.

PM me if you can test.

[Gavin Kane]

Let me see if I can find a lab that is currently doing testing. There are not many out there that have the equipment to do it.

[Br0]

Let me see if I can find a lab that is currently doing testing. There are not many out there that have the equipment to do it.

And the costs?? Here in europe is a labtest very expensive 3500 euros :o

[NANdro]

And the costs?? Here in europe is a labtest very expensive 3500 euros :o

HUH !

You can easily get i tested in denmark, poland and germany for around 1000euro`s !

[BIGAINS]

For those of you who don't know, mamta is golden. He has been around a long time, I would trust what he has to say.

[2Sick]

I dont know about this guy, but I do trust GK's words, all he does is eat, sleep live and breath peptides, the hype surrounding them and the everlasting questions of how to make them more effective. Most of his time is devoted to experimentation of products and writing in depth articles on the subjects. He has done plenty of research more than 10x more than anyone I have ever met. I have passed his info on to many top guys and they are incredibly satified and inrigued (didnt spell that right) with his work. Gavin is now working with a handfull of the top of the top pro's on the curcuit today and pound for pound the best bodybuilding trainer in the world. All who trust his every word so for me to belive this other guy is nonsense. Actions speak louder than words.

[L.W.]

Great post 2sick.
GK really goes above and beyond.
He doesnt get paid to post here and answer PM's but he has helped out 100's of guys online myself included and like 2sick says has worked with top amateurs and pro bodybuilders as well.

I dont blindly follow someone but GK has really earned respect of all members. 2sick you have been great to and have helped. Thanks bro.

[2Sick]

We are all Bolex Familia bro ....Bolex wouldnt be anything without everyones input, thats what makes it a great board.

[Gavin Kane]

Thanks for the kind words guys. Apparently there needs to be some clarification here: Hygetroping and Hygentropin. There appear to be two brands on the market with the same name. The Hygentropin comes in a knock off box exactly like the Jintropin, a direct rip off from an Underground lab in China.

So mamta if you are so golden as has been spoken and stand by your stuff, please provide an AMERICAN independent lab test (not some crap test from China) to prove what you are hyping is really 191aa and not the 192aa I know it to be. Plus which one are you pushing...Hyge or Hygen?

[doctorflex]

I think it is you who are mistaken my friend. There are lab tests available that show your gh as 192. All Chinese gh is still manufactured using inclusion body technology. Only Gensci has the proprietary rights by the Chinese Govt to use Secretion Technology which means they are the only ones making 191aa in China. They have patent rights and sue every company that claims otherwise. For example..Fitropin and AnkeBio have both been sued for making false claims as 191aa, recent tests prove they are 192. Don't come here selling your crap Gh, I protect my members and educate them otherwise.

Gavin - if what you say is true, then how does PEL produce Somatorm (at 191)? I know its not "repackaged" jins from Gensci and according to the test I had run on it for Dale D, Somatorm did come back at 191. Was this just am inaccurate test or is Somatorm TRULY 191??? If, so, how is this possible?

[Gavin Kane]

Somatorm is truly 191aa as confirmed by your test. It is not manufactured in China, which is where all this low grade 192 is coming from and flooding our market.

[L.W.]

The 192aa is amazingly cheap too.

A friend emailed me the other day a price list and I was shocked what they were asking. It was almost as cheap as deca...lol...but not worth it. I told him to use ProP instead. Worth the little extra cash output.

[doublefister]

Is there a way to find out just from injecting that it is 192? I have heard people say they get extra sides from 192aa than they do with the 191. I also have had many that have tried Hygetropin tell me its 191 as the manufacturer states it also.

[Dale D]

A fellow by the name of Nordicsport from offshorebodybuilding.com performed a test on some backdorr Jins that came with no label. They performed a sort of DNA test showing how 191 is different from 192. I'll see if I can find the link. Either way, there was a visible difference and it turned out that the backdoor Jins were not 191, but some crap ass 192 GH.

DoctorFlex, I do not believe the lab we used gave us the correct result. If you think about it, each lab test to determine whether it is 191 or 192, costs a hefty ammount, how much did it cost us? YGM BTW :D

Dale

[Gavin Kane]

Is there a way to find out just from injecting that it is 192? I have heard people say they get extra sides from 192aa than they do with the 191. I also have had many that have tried Hygetropin tell me its 191 as the manufacturer states it also.

No one can make that claim without a lab test to prove it.

[jzigger]

Thanks for the kind words guys. Apparently there needs to be some clarification here: Hygetroping and Hygentropin. There appear to be two brands on the market with the same name. The Hygentropin comes in a knock off box exactly like the Jintropin, a direct rip off from an Underground lab in China.

So mamta if you are so golden as has been spoken and stand by your stuff, please provide an AMERICAN independent lab test (not some crap test from China) to prove what you are hyping is really 191aa and not the 192aa I know it to be. Plus which one are you pushing...Hyge or Hygen?

Gavin he has the hygen, not the one you mentioned that are set up like the jins. i am quite interested to see what the results are if its 191 or 192.

[doctorflex]

A fellow by the name of Nordicsport from offshorebodybuilding.com performed a test on some backdorr Jins that came with no label. They performed a sort of DNA test showing how 191 is different from 192. I'll see if I can find the link. Either way, there was a visible difference and it turned out that the backdoor Jins were not 191, but some crap ass 192 GH.

DoctorFlex, I do not believe the lab we used gave us the correct result. If you think about it, each lab test to determine whether it is 191 or 192, costs a hefty ammount, how much did it cost us? YGM BTW :D

Dale


To all those interested (as am I), I did have a sample of Somatorm (generously donated by Dale D) tested sometime about a year ago and posted the results as part of a sticky before bolex crashed and almost all the info was lost. Since that time, I have replaced my computer twice and am still looking for a copy of the test results. I'm sure, given enough time, I will be able to produce a copy of the original test results once I find it. You have to understand, however, that any info I put on my computer dealing with "matters" of this sort or "related" to the business we discuss here on bolex is "deeply" hidden and encrypted in parts of my hard drive that would make it virtually impossible for the authorities to find or decode if for some strange reason my computer was to be confiscated ...(I'm sure they still could, but I will make it as difficult for them as humanly possible!!!)

The test did show that the purity of the Somatorm sample (if I remember correctly) was between 98 and 99% pure and that the iu's/mgs were also accurate.

NOW - as far as typing the amino acid chain as 191aa or 192aa, the results that were given to me was that Somatorm came back at 191aa. People have questioned the legitimacy of this test as they claim that gas chromatography would not be sophisticated enough to determine the size of the chain. PLEASE UNDERSTAND...I never said, nor did the test results that were posted, that gas chromatography was the method used to determine the amino acid chain. The results of the amino acid chain was just listed as a side note on the original report as I was not given the full multi-page print out of the actual method used. I, myself, am a biochemist by trade and had these tests done at a local university by lab technicians I trust 100%. They usually keep all results on all tests for 12 months so I will contact them again as soon as possible and discuss with them the methods THEY used to determine the amino acid sequence. And YES...to use a test of this method to determine amino acid structure of a protein is VERY expensive (in the $3000 range)...but keep in mind, I use to work for this facility and know the techies there VERY well and simply covered the cost of materials they needed to perform such a test. This is how I was able to get this done. Once I find out more, I will gladly share the methods and results with you once again and hope to put this issue to bed - once and for all....DOC

[2Sick]

Thats interesting, we have the somatorm lab results infact I even have a copy that I downloaded when it was a sticky. The question is on the H kits now.

[mamta]

Thanks for the kind words guys. Apparently there needs to be some clarification here: Hygetroping and Hygentropin. There appear to be two brands on the market with the same name. The Hygentropin comes in a knock off box exactly like the Jintropin, a direct rip off from an Underground lab in China.

So mamta if you are so golden as has been spoken and stand by your stuff, please provide an AMERICAN independent lab test (not some crap test from China) to prove what you are hyping is really 191aa and not the 192aa I know it to be. Plus which one are you pushing...Hyge or Hygen?

Hygetropin is the brand and Hygentropin are fakes floating out in the market claiming to be hygetropins.

First of all the test conduced in china is not crap. when i initially wanted to work with this co. i wanted to make sure that the stuff is gtg and that is when i tested it (mind u it cost me a bomb.). i did testing for this gh and another igf product and total it cost me over 2k to test it
purity of a gh is not a big problem to test and not too expensive but to test its aa sequence is more harder to test and much more expensive.
Now we had tried before going around testing them in china to find out if it can be tested inside USA but could not find a place to test it so we had to do it in CHina. Now if anyone knows of a place (which we dont know ) and can let us know where to test it we will be glad to do the needful but it should be a proper lab with the proper Credentials to carry out tests and give out reports.

So if anyone has suggestions do let us know
Plus you had pointed out that you had report of it being 192aa. If you have that report i would like to take a look at it.

[Gavin Kane]

Mamta, the reason I am researching all of this is because the report I had is for Hygentropin as 192aa which I am sure it is because it appears to be a cheap knock off of Jins. I assumed Hygen and Hygetropin were the same thing and guys were just misspelling the name and adding the 'n' but I have come to find otherwise. I am still doing research and if I find that Hygetropin is indeed 191aa I will make an open apology, I stand by my word.

[Dale D]

Doctorflex, I am wasn't questioning the integrity of your lab in that e-mail bro. I was just asking, y ou know, curious cause it looked like a regular gas cromatography test, but thanks for the extra info :D I trust you man..but know that I think about it, I THINK YOU USED MY 60 IU's of GH!! Bastard, give them back, hehehhe, JK.

Gavin, are any of your customers getting any red welts from Somatorm? The first batch I recieved, about 1 year ago, left some red welts in my stomach, and when I switched to IM injections, just like the instructions said, I was crippled for a few days. I even diluted it with over 5ccs of water in a 10ml vial and shot my calf, well, it didn't go so well. Then I got my second batch and damn it was like shooting water, no pain, just magic. Hows Somatorm these days? I want to buy 20 kits, but I am weary of them being painful like the first batch.

Dale

[jack thomas]

Am actually running the soma since april,and i have been doing IM shot without any pain.

j/t.

[Gavin Kane]

The removed part of the preservatives in the new somatorms and did a slight reformulation to get rid of some of the welts and pain. The welts are from the preservatives that allow it to be shipped and stored without ice packs. Only one other company is currently doing that.

[mamta]

Mamta, the reason I am researching all of this is because the report I had is for Hygentropin as 192aa which I am sure it is because it appears to be a cheap knock off of Jins. I assumed Hygen and Hygetropin were the same thing and guys were just misspelling the name and adding the 'n' but I have come to find otherwise. I am still doing research and if I find that Hygetropin is indeed 191aa I will make an open apology, I stand by my word.


Fair Enough.

And again if someone can let us know where to get them tested inside USA ( from a proper lab) than we may do that testing in usa. Also i can also give names of a couple of labs inside china to people who are willing to get it tested inside china and do it independently ( this will give more authenticity to the tests than me getting it tested inside china again)

[jzigger]

in a previous post i said hygen, double checked its hygetropin. not the knock off jin set up either. i have been running a small dose since spring of 2iu's and i can't complain. i am curious to see the results though.

[xtragood]

Fair Enough.

And again if someone can let us know where to get them tested inside USA ( from a proper lab) than we may do that testing in usa. Also i can also give names of a couple of labs inside china to people who are willing to get it tested inside china and do it independently ( this will give more authenticity to the tests than me getting it tested inside china again)

yeah, send me like 5000 i.u's i will test them gladly for you, at my personal home lab, my abs skin :smiliedrool:

i only have to say HYGETROPIN is a top notch product guy's, i'm running it at 4iu's ed and i like them better than jins, and theres no way they could be 192aa..i didn't get welts nor the kind of sides that 192aa can give...hygetropin is definatly 191aa and for me one of the best gh outhere, of course we cannot compare to american brands but they definatly give you awesome results. you choose.

[TJ]

Gavin, are any of your customers getting any red welts from Somatorm?

I think you mean clients Dale dont you?? :D

[Gavin Kane]

Lol TJ, didn't even notice that. I wish I had customers, sadly just clients.

[2Sick]

yeah, send me like 5000 i.u's i will test them gladly for you, at my personal home lab, my abs skin :smiliedrool:

i only have to say HYGETROPIN is a top notch product guy's, i'm running it at 4iu's ed and i like them better than jins, and theres no way they could be 192aa..i didn't get welts nor the kind of sides that 192aa can give...hygetropin is definatly 191aa and for me one of the best gh outhere, of course we cannot compare to american brands but they definatly give you awesome results. you choose.

Again, you cannot SAY it is infact 191 without a lab test so dont start pushing around rumors just yet....

[xtragood]

Again, you cannot SAY it is infact 191 without a lab test so dont start pushing around rumors just yet....

i'm not pushing rumours..i said that the results i got from the hygetropin are far better than the jintropin.and when i said that they are not 192aa i meant from my own experience with diferent chinese gh, i am 99% sure that they are not 192aa, only thing that can make me change my mind is a lab test that prooves that hygetropin is in fact 192aa!

to finish this i would to say that i'm completly satisfied with hygetropin, and that i'm not alone who tried this gh and feel satisfied the same way i am.

[mamta]

Again, you cannot SAY it is infact 191 without a lab test so dont start pushing around rumors just yet....

bro i have provided a lab report to state that it is 191aa. but that test was carried out my me.. so dont know how much water it holds. but here are some facts which should give backing that it is 191 rather than 192.. so i feel its fair to state that it is 191 unless ofcourse someone gets a lab test from an authentic lab stating otherwise.

(1) we have a lab report stating its 191 . as i said that i got that lab test done. but still its a lab test

(2) this gh has been used by ppl for more than a year now and i have not heard of a case of red welts. and have heard praises of this gh.

(3) this hgh is made by co-founder of Jintropin

(4) If one needs a lab test to say that gh is 191 than iam sure that the same holds true for Gensci.. has anyone seen a lab report of genscis hgh stating that its 191. if not than why do we believe its 191. Just that this gh is popluar does not mean that these arguments should not apply to it


I think the above points should be assessed fairly and we should stop saying its 192aa unless of course its tested out to be 192.

[Gavin Kane]

So far everything I have checked out and looked at shows that Hygetropin is 191aa and Hygentropin is 192aa.

On a side note, I will be ordering and testing Hygetropin so I can give you all some feedback. I know more about gh than most guys here so I think my testing it personally might help.

[pscarb]

it is good that their is a clear distinction between the 2 Hyge GH products i am sure their will be alot of confusion on the net concerning these two in the future.

I have been using Hygetropin for 26 weeks now at 8iu's eod with great results i have used other brands and i do believe that GH is GH but i am getting better results from Hygetropin than say Ansomone and Jins...

[Br0]

@Gavin Kane

Im using now the Hygentropins (100 kit) for an month now 5iu/d, I dont have such thing as welts... I have almost 100iu left, what doe have to do stop?

grtz
Br0

[Colcalcipherol]

"It is 192aa so while it will work for a short period of time, your body will develop anti-bodies to it and then your own natural gh production will drop rapidly as well. Anti-bodies are not just a temporary side effect, they can have long term damage. The FDA is working on removing all 192aa GH from sale in the country right now."

It is so not 192 a.a. I actually took a sample into my lab and analyzed it and compared it to jin. I first did a trypsin digest which breaks the molecule into pieces then recorded a mass via MALDI/TOF MS (Matrix Assisted Laser Desorption Ionization/Time of Flight Mass Spectrometry). I will put an end now to the rumor that it is 192. The one hundred and ninety second a.a. is an f-methionine, which is translated by the termination codon of the messenger RNA, the codon that tells the ribosome, "it's over, stop now." During post translational modification, the producing body (usually E. coli) is supposed to cleave the f-met, then fold the protein. These get folded but sometimes the f-met doesn't get cleaved. Either way, I personally verified that the brown-tops are 191, have very little side product, and are very effective.

Note: to all extraneous readers, this post is just a source of entertainment and holds no viability otherwise.

[achiles]

A friend of mine has ulcerative colitis and is on prednisone and has been on it for 2 years. But he is going on hygetropin 4 ius a day for at least 2 months and will take BD Stanabol 25 mgs 2-3 times per week because he is on prednisone and only wants a slight anabolic effect for recovery, protection of bones, slight increase lean muscle mass and so it doesn't counteract too much with the catabolic cortisol releasing effect of the prednisone. What do you think?

[pitbulladams]

it is good that their is a clear distinction between the 2 Hyge GH products i am sure their will be alot of confusion on the net concerning these two in the future.

I have been using Hygetropin for 26 weeks now at 8iu's eod with great results i have used other brands and i do believe that GH is GH but i am getting better results from Hygetropin than say Ansomone and Jins...


You have too much time on your hands buddy..

Every board i go on you are there... Forum whore lol..

I'm just waiting on some Hygetropin, finished off the last of my Jin a week or so ago will be good to see if i notice a difference.

PB

[surazal]

so

Hygetropin = Good 191aa

HygeNtropin = Bad 192


??


now i've got the Hygetropin site bookmarked ....... so how do i know that's is not some dupe/clone site?

:(

[Gavin Kane]

so

Hygetropin = Good 191aa

HygeNtropin = Bad 192


??


now i've got the Hygetropin site bookmarked ....... so how do i know that's is not some dupe/clone site?

:(

Yes that is correct.

I can give you the real link if you need it. Or you can wait a week or so, ProPeptides is going to be carrying Hygetropin very soon.

[TJ]

so
Hygetropin = Good 191aa
HygeNtropin = Bad 192
?? now i've got the Hygetropin site bookmarked ....... so how do i know that's is not some dupe/clone site?
:(

Why bookmark a site with no feedback when you can just get the stuff from Pro Peptides? At least with PP if something God forbid should go wrong, and believe me you'd probably be the 1st, at least you could have myself, Gavin, 2Sick or a few other Vets here help you expedite things!!

Let's not forget to support our advertisers, they defray the cost of this board and make it possible to have it in the 1st place. Their also running contests all the time and doing other things to make it possible for you guys/gals to reach your end goals!! Matter of fact this calls for its own thread, LOL!!

[Dale D]

I think you mean clients Dale dont you?? :D

I am from another planet:cow:

Isn't customers sinonym of client?

BTW, I am thrilled to hear that Soma has removed the preservatives.

Dale

[TJ]

I am from another planet:cow:

Isn't customers synonym of client?

BTW, I am thrilled to hear that Soma has removed the preservatives.

Dale

LOL!!! :biglaugh:

Hey weren't you the one that couldn't use Soma because of the welts or reaction you were getting? If so maybe now is the time to try it again. Just a thought.

[surazal]

Why bookmark a site with no feedback when you can just get the stuff from Pro Peptides?
money .... some of us are on a budget

nothing against PP at all


i would like nothing better than to load up on receptor grade IGF and Soma from PP ......... but Hygetropin and media grade is where my wallet is at right now. :yo:

[surazal]

Yes that is correct.

I can give you the real link if you need it. Or you can wait a week or so, ProPeptides is going to be carrying Hygetropin very soon.
i can wait ... if PP gets Hygetropin, i will buy from them first.

i'd also buy media grade IGF from PP too if/when they start carrying it. (i know, i know receptor is so much better ... but money is money ... )

[TJ]

But while media is cheaper it's already been shown you need to use twice as much, so is it really cheaper?

[test74]

I was on the gensci site and this is what i found. I hope its not true but should be investigated to be positive. Gensci who makes Jintropin claims that Hygetropin is 192 Amino acid sequence.

The say that even though its claimed to be 191 Amino Acid HGH that
their is still small amounts of 192 amino acid because of the
technology used. Gensci claims they are the only brand that is
using patented secretion technology to make the HGH 191 Amino Acid.

Here is a link to their site.
http://www.gensci-china.com/gensci/center-guide0004.html

[surazal]

But while media is cheaper it's already been shown you need to use twice as much, so is it really cheaper?
unless you buy 1000 bucks worth of receptor grade it's almost 3 times the price .... so i dunno.

[surazal]

I was on the gensci site and this is what i found. I hope its not true but should be investigated to be positive. Gensci who makes Jintropin claims that Hygetropin is 192 Amino acid sequence
wow ... that sucks

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4673/picture024hq3.jpg

[xtragood]

i dont believe a fuckin shit what gensci claim! why does gensci not perform a labtest of hygetropin and then put it on their website instead pushing rumours without even proof them, or even why dont THEY put a lab test of jintropin! me i never saw a lab report of jintropin that prooves that they are really 191aa..i rather believe in the real world expierences, and my experience and other guys experiences with jin and hyge are, hyge is OFF THE HOOK, and far better than jin!! i cant believe you guys believe in virtual claims from a concurent company,hygene is brand new company and its a fact that they become stronger in the market,so gensci is afraid!! its like a big food store claim from another big food store that they are better than them! WTF is wrong with you?? show me a labtest that hyge is 192aa and if any of you got a labtest from gensci that it is 191aa,youre welcome to post please, cause i never saw any,and then it's all said, until that, what other companies say about hyge i dont give a shit, i know what i'm saying 'cause i tried both! period! :smash:

[mamta]

wow ... that sucks

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4673/picture024hq3.jpg


i think if the tests performed by an independent co. or organization will make these results more unbiased.
at present i consider them totally biased and have an ulterior motive.

firstly hygetropin came out in may and i have seen this info on this site for the past few months.
i would like to ask this site these questions

(1) how did they get hands on this hgh.
as this hgh is available to international market only and not domestic china market.
(2) how can they do these tests so quickly considering that the hgh just came out.

these two questions by itself leaves doubts in peoples minds.

PLus please guys we need an independent verification on this without which these figures dont hold much water.
and gensci is located domestic china

[BIGAINS]

If there are no citations leading to peer reviewed reasearch studies behind these claims then they are bullshit.

[volusia40]

The say that even though its claimed to be 191 Amino Acid HGH that
their is still small amounts of 192 amino acid because of the
technology used. Gensci claims they are the only brand that is
using patented secretion technology to make the HGH 191 Amino Acid.

I wonder what does this really mean?
Does it mean that it is primarily 191 but a very small percentage of 192 remains? If so what percentage?

Does anyone know of anyone who has ever gotten sick from using either ansomone or fitropin or protropin for that matter.?

I've cruised this board for years as well as other boards and I've never read one post where someone claimed to become seriously ill from using any Chinese hgh, other than the occasional welts. I've used ansomone and liked it allot with absolutely no side effects.

How long would someone have to use 192 inorder to develop antibodies to it?

It may depend on dosage, duration and also frequency of injection.

At this point until someone can come up with conclusive evidence, I'm very reluctant to believe any of the claims on the gensci web site.

I've read on a medical site that .4% of patients treated with protropin developed antibodies after six months. Protropin openly claims to be 192 amino acid string. So based on this data I would have to conclude that the data presented above claiming 16 and 40 percent must be bullshit.

[pscarb]

When Ansomone came out and started to eat into the GH market previously owned by GenSci and JIntropin GenSci claimed Ansomone was 192aa they did not provide proof they just claimed it and now Hygetropin is taking a huge bite out of the market GenSci have started the bad mouthing again and with no proof what so ever....

I would like to see any proof GenSci have that either Ansomone or Hygetropin is 191aa and by proof i mean an lab test carried out by an independent lab otherwise GenSci and the sources who have a financial interest in discrediting other GH brands need to shut the hell up.....

[xtragood]

When Ansomone came out and started to eat into the GH market previously owned by GenSci and JIntropin GenSci claimed Ansomone was 192aa they did not provide proof they just claimed it and now Hygetropin is taking a huge bite out of the market GenSci have started the bad mouthing again and with no proof what so ever....

I would like to see any proof GenSci have that either Ansomone or Hygetropin is 191aa and by proof i mean an lab test carried out by an independent lab otherwise GenSci and the sources who have a financial interest in discrediting other GH brands need to shut the hell up.....

WORD!! Thats exacly what i meant before! we are all getting awesome results from hygetropin, and gensci are pissed because everybody is satisfied with hygene..like pscarb, we want a damn labtest that states that hygetropin is really 192aa, otherwise i will believe a SHIT!! :blah:

[chico]

off topic but a question to anyone. do you think it is possible, or would benefit me to start an IGF, or gh cycle without using Test? or is this just pointless? any opinions would be appreciated.

[Dale D]

LOL!!! :biglaugh:

Hey weren't you the one that couldn't use Soma because of the welts or reaction you were getting? If so maybe now is the time to try it again. Just a thought.

Indeed TJ, I was the one. I was so thrilled using Somatorm cause I could actually feel the hyperglycemic rush right after injecting, that I knew it would work, but the damn welts just kept me off it.

I am going o talk to Kevin as soon as I run out the blue tops.:D

Dale

[JERK]

HYGETROPIN are made by the HYGENE company and are 200iu per box, no water included. The manufacturer claims it is 191AA and will guarantee it against any lab test. These have been out for a while now and there has not been a single complaint anywhere that I know of. Everyone loves them.

These are the old brown tops if anyone was curious.

HygeNtropiN are the fake ones (As posted earlier) which are most likely 192AA. Lots of complaints about these.N stands for NO WAY, NO HOW, NO THANK U

Sure, we wont know for certain until someone UNBIASED and who has no link with any manufacture company can get them tested by a licensed company.

Just so you guys know, SRCS has not, and CAN NOT test PEPTIDES! So anyone who posts an "official test" or lab report from them on GH or IGF has been deceived, or is deceiving you!

Here is my personal pic of more HYGETROPINS just to make your mouth water. :)

(sorry, it wont load, my single 10,000iu Hygetropin pic takes up 1.7MB and the max for pics is 175kb) Guess u guys can just dream about them then



note: I have no direct interest in this company other than I know they make GREAT products and the distributor is high class all the way

[charles]

You guys are getting your facts mixed up with bovine manure !

Gensci doesn't manufacture anything. They get there product from a company called Zongshen Hygene, where just about all of china gets there HGH.

If it comes from Zongshen Hygene you have purchased the best GH in Eurasia.

[TheDon]

HYGETROPIN are made by the HYGENE company and are 200iu per box, no water included. The manufacturer claims it is 191AA and will guarantee it against any lab test. These have been out for a while now and there has not been a single complaint anywhere that I know of. Everyone loves them.

These are the old brown tops if anyone was curious.

HygeNtropiN are the fake ones (As posted earlier) which are most likely 192AA. Lots of complaints about these.N stands for NO WAY, NO HOW, NO THANK U

Sure, we wont know for certain until someone UNBIASED and who has no link with any manufacture company can get them tested by a licensed company.

Just so you guys know, SRCS has not, and CAN NOT test PEPTIDES! So anyone who posts an "official test" or lab report from them on GH or IGF has been deceived, or is deceiving you!

Here is my personal pic of more HYGETROPINS just to make your mouth water. :)

(sorry, it wont load, my single 10,000iu Hygetropin pic takes up 1.7MB and the max for pics is 175kb) Guess u guys can just dream about them then



note: I have no direct interest in this company other than I know they make GREAT products and the distributor is high class all the way

The quality of HYGe was great when this poster posted this. In january things took a dive and many complaints were all over the net as many of you have seen.

The question now is have they corrected the quality control issues wiuth the hyge product?

Don